Casino

Jun 18 2009, 04:27 PM

I would consider myself a deist or agnostic but an atheist at heart. My problem is I want to believe that there is a higher power or life after death but I don't see any evidence for it. I really can't support any religious institution because the majority of them Christianity/Bible in particular are discredited. I simply can't believe anything the Bible says and I don't agree with the majority of what "God" says in it.

Voyevoda

Jun 18 2009, 09:32 PM

I don't believe in god.

Let's say god exist and you could ask him one question. What would it be?
I would be like "Where the fuck are my 72 virgins?!"

Andro

Jun 18 2009, 08:53 PM

I'm a progressive Christian. Oh yeah, and I'm educated.

Liloqui

Jun 19 2009, 02:55 PM

How can you believe in Christianity when its clearly shown in history that the religion had its origins in previous myths and superstitious god images? One group of assholes decided the current myths weren't good enough and made another set. There is far more evidence in support against the idea of God than I could possibly post here. History, Anthropology, Psychology, Neurosciences, Physics, Astrophysics... all these fields have independent evidences that come together to prove the whole. The problem is people can't and often won't accept that explanation, because they have lived all their lives thinking they are living a higher purpose for God, and its not true. A tiny psyche would collapse under that realization, so millions of humans continually live in denial, and propagate that denial to their offspring...and we never get rid of that curse that is religion, mired in ignorance and illogical fallacy.

Liloqui

Jun 19 2009, 02:55 PM

How can you believe in Christianity when its clearly shown in history that the religion had its origins in previous myths and superstitious god images? One group of assholes decided the current myths weren't good enough and made another set. There is far more evidence in support against the idea of God than I could possibly post here. History, Anthropology, Psychology, Neurosciences, Physics, Astrophysics... all these fields have independent evidences that come together to prove the whole. The problem is people can't and often won't accept that explanation, because they have lived all their lives thinking they are living a higher purpose for God, and its not true. A tiny psyche would collapse under that realization, so millions of humans continually live in denial, and propagate that denial to their offspring...and we never get rid of that curse that is religion, mired in ignorance and illogical fallacy.

Andro

Jun 20 2009, 05:22 PM

Liloqui

Jun 19 2009, 02:55 PM

How can you believe in Christianity when its clearly shown in history that the religion had its origins in previous myths and superstitious god images? One group of assholes decided the current myths weren't good enough and made another set. There is far more evidence in support against the idea of God than I could possibly post here. History, Anthropology, Psychology, Neurosciences, Physics, Astrophysics... all these fields have independent evidences that come together to prove the whole. The problem is people can't and often won't accept that explanation, because they have lived all their lives thinking they are living a higher purpose for God, and its not true. A tiny psyche would collapse under that realization, so millions of humans continually live in denial, and propagate that denial to their offspring...and we never get rid of that curse that is religion, mired in ignorance and illogical fallacy.

I considered myself an atheist for a while, but then I reexamined myself and decided on my own to return to Christianity. I love how you act like we're all brainwashed. Y'all turn atheism into a religion. That is just as problematic.

Liloqui

Jun 20 2009, 08:13 PM

Andro

Jun 20 2009, 05:22 PM

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I can't stand it when people who are religious call Atheism a religion.

A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power, God or gods, or ultimate truth.

Atheism has no beliefs or practices, and we make no prescriptions for anything supernatural. We don't procure meaning of life through a higher power or God. Which means it doesn't fit the definition of a religion. No myths to follow, no made up God in the sky... just science and reasoning, cold hard facts.

We're militant about it because we're tired of people who believe in invisible assholes in the sky dictating how we should talk or live our lives. If they want to live out their existence indulging delusions and believing in something that isn't there, that's fine... but keep the craziness to yourself, stop involving the rest of humanity.

Liloqui

Jun 20 2009, 08:13 PM

Andro

Jun 20 2009, 05:22 PM

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep

I can't stand it when people who are religious call Atheism a religion.

A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power, God or gods, or ultimate truth.

Atheism has no beliefs or practices, and we make no prescriptions for anything supernatural. We don't procure meaning of life through a higher power or God. Which means it doesn't fit the definition of a religion. No myths to follow, no made up God in the sky... just science and reasoning, cold hard facts.

We're militant about it because we're tired of people who believe in invisible assholes in the sky dictating how we should talk or live our lives. If they want to live out their existence indulging delusions and believing in something that isn't there, that's fine... but keep the craziness to yourself, stop involving the rest of humanity.